TRADE 3 x sets Awning to Hybrid Pop Top Camper brackets
This is a Trade listing for 3 x sets of Tough Touring "Awning to Top Plate of Hybrid Camper trailer brackets". This is the kit you will install 90% of the time with awnings 190mm or longer than the pop top length. Its the Simplest install, strongest and works in the closest to the camper wall, making rain gutter additions down the track easiest.
We add in a 4th Box with miscelanious brackets to complete the kit to allow for unusual installations, Bringing the kits up to the full range of parts we make for these installations.
The 4th Box includes parts to convert any one of the three flush mount bracket kits to "Short awning to Hybrid, Same Length Awning to Hybrid.
The Explanations of what and how these kits all work with installations is discussed here on our website...
https://www.toughtouring.com.au/awning-to-hybrid-camper-trailer-brackets
"Fitters timeframe and quoting the install"
Weve learnt that these customers love the forums - you do one, you'll get plenty of work doing more - the customer base is litterally dying for help as the awnings on the majority of these campers fail very quickly (Rubbish)... Many are insurance jobs, so they are needing a quote...
Heres an example of quote with the workshop charging out time at $100 an hour
Awning of your choice ($2000 Plus typically)
Bracket set $790
Installation / labour $1300 - $1600 depending on variables (latch repositioning or replacement if required).
Its great to have a second set of hands or a forklift to hold the weight of the awning whilst bolting it on at the end, otherwise time frame from start to completion is around 2 days - 1 guy, It seems a long time, but remember youve got to manouver the camper a lot to get it in and out of the workshop, the owners will want to see it set up, (Moved outside again) pack up, and of course talk about it on pick up...
The Kits are individually boxed and labelled, with the extra alternative parts for the variations in a box marked 'Variations / parts'
We reccommend that if your a pro fitter doing these, get the trade kit - as some trailers you though would be a 'flush fit' set up end up requiring 'same length awning to back plate as the customers screw up the awning orders all the time and they come at the wrong length, or there is an unforseen obstacle in the way and the other kit works better... We mix and match all the time.
General Info below
Tough Touring has manufactured bracket systems capable of handling trussedPole Less wing awnings mounted to the pop top roof section of Some STRONGER pop top campers like the Ultimate Campers ... Loads exerted by twist forces on awning are triangulated along the pop tops roof section structure giving the Awning immense strength. The Brackets are designed to Prioritise Awnings to'Fail first' minimising potential damage to the camper walls in the event of extreme and unexpected wind damage. We are Unable to be certain that your campers lifting mechanisms can handle the extra weight of the awning, and this part is totally up to you to upgrade accordingly if required.
AWNING BRACKET OPTIONS:
The Awning brackets are released in two varients,
Full Length - FLUSH FIT bracket set -
STrongests and easiest to install - $790 - Your Awning must be 190mm longer than your pop top roof to use these. The Awning is fitted hard up to the passenger side wall and gaps are minimal. Pretty much flush... The Awnings fixing bolts are accessed on the outside edge of the walls - 80mm each side, *Thus the awning must be 190mm longher than the camper) This is the reccommended perfect installation.
Same length Awning to Hybrid bracket set -
The Awning is NOT 190mm longer than the trailer, and thus the Awning Starts at the end of the camper but falls EVEN or just (20mm or so) short of the END TO END of the Pop top - The Bracket kits for these trailers push the awning out 50mm outbound of the trailers side panel to facilitate access to the awnings fixing bolts. Usually a rain gutter or canvas is required to stop water going between the awning and the side of the camper.
Plastic Rectangular Rain water gutter pipe has been used successfully (cut in half) aluminum angle etc. We avoid this addition as its a handyman special - impossible to freight out at 5m lengths. Leave it to the owner to complete.
(not a reccommended first option but you will do a lot of these as the owners always order the wrong length awning)
Short Awning to Hybrid bracket set -
The Awning is up to 130mm shorter than the trailer, and thus the Awning Starts at the back end of the camper but falls up to 130mm short of the END TO END of the Pop top - The Bracket kits for these trailers push the awning out 50mm outbound of the trailers side panel to facilitate access to the awnings fixing bolts. Usually a rain gutter or canvas is required to stop water going between the awning and the side of the camper.
The Kit is the same as the 'Same Length Awning to Hybrid kit" but has a 150mm long Top Hat Plank that can be used to extend the back plate of the awning so it reaches the front bracket.
Like the Above 'Same Length awning to hybrid" -
Plastic Rectangular Rain water gutter pipe has been used successfully (cut in half) aluminum angle etc. We avoid this addition as its a handyman special - impossible to freight out at 5m lengths. Leave it to the owner to complete.
(not a reccommended first option but you will do a lot of these as the owners always order the wrong length awning)
All Supa Peg Awnings Hybrid Awnings can be suitable for these Hybrids - They also come in custom sizes and are lightweight and strong when put up.
Fitting of all brackets themselves is fairly straightforward with 6 x M8 Nuterts each end fixing the brackets straight down to the top plates... There are not any fixings on the visible side walls of the camper as these are made of a composite filled with styrene (No strength there).
We reccommend that any fittings on the side of the trailers walls be left there. Removal leads to a mess.
HOW TO MEASURE YOUR TRAILERS ROOF LENGTH
Calculations on awnings sizes are as follows:
Measure exacltly the roof line edge of the campers pop top. For example - the MDC 12 measured here measures exactly 3020mm from outside edge to outside edge of the pop tops roof -
If intending to fit a 360 Degree wrap around awning - The awnings back plate must allow the swing around arms to 'cup' around the trailer and thus must have their pivot point at least 20mm each end WIDER than the trailer + an allowance for The Securing Bolts to fit the awning via the 'outside' the trailers body....
EXAMPLE OF ROOF MEASUREMENT REQUIREMENT WHEN BUYING AWNING.
for example - If your Camper Roof line measurement is 3m - You need to order your awning at 3.190m or 3.2m if thats all they sell...
The Reasons for the 100mm odd overlap each end requirement below:
In testing we have noted that if you want to raise the MDC roof one end at a time - angles exerted by a single person lift on the roof pushes the roof aft and or forward, requiring a 80mm GAP to be left at each end of the trailer. We have added this into our bracket systems so that a single person roof lift is possible.
Awning Bolts need to be accessable from beside the vehicle - (Rather than through the walls) - so the awning brackets hang outside the vans body and have just enough steel around the bolt hole to take a socket/spanner and washer.Just in case you want to ask why - because "she'll be right' simply wont be. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to CUP any smaller awning around a van - It has to be a minimum of 190mm longer than the van overall...
Measure carefully . Vans will need straight lifting roofs (Good gas struts and springs) to be able to open single handedly without rubbing on brackets .
INCLUSIONS:
The Kit comes complete with a tube of Sikkaflex automotive sealant, Nutserts and Bolts for fixing off the brackets, 15m of Self adhesive insulation strip - 4 Large Laser cut and Powdercoated Black brackets with two Tough Touring Logo plates rivetted on.4 x 50mm Dome Nut Bolts for awning are also included along with 4 Nyloc bolts and washers.
2 Drivers side hook brackets,
2 end of camper Face Triangulation brackets 'Mirrored;
2 Face Brackets and
1 Central Supporting bracket (May not be required but included anyway)
FOOT NOTE. If you have wrong length awning
FOOT NOTE:
To achieve required anti - twist strength - tough touring brackets triangulate back along the pop tops body to 'brace' the awning against lifting in wind along the front and rear ends of the van. This is achieved by the 'wrap around' design of the bracket system used.
If this is not possible as the awning you've purchased is too short - DO NOT TRY TO FIT THE AWNING - You are far better off selling the awning and buying the right length ...ALL 180 and 360 awnings will fit up to the "Outfold Hybrid bracket" as long as they are 190mm LONGER than the pop tops roof...
WATER RUN OFF and WHAT TO DO WITH EXISTING BRACKET
Many Campers have a plastic rain Gutter fitted behind the rubbish awning they come with ... KEEP IT. Its handy and really makes a difference to water run off.
Existing brackets on the trailer can typically stay on there. Don't try to remove them. they can be handy for additional anti bounce bracing. You will find that cutting them off with an angle grinder melts the wall internally and makes a simple job a terrible one.
If your trailer does not have any guttering - Additional Guttering to prevent water running down the walls can be fitted. At Time of writing Tough Touring DOES NOT SUPPLY THE GUTTER, (we make brackets) - its also massivly long and difficult to post... So source this locally.. A bit of angle in aluniuminiu / plastic or rubber would do it... Install it after the awning is on so you can measure it up. Weve done it successfully with a tube of sikkaflex and a long piece of Aluminium Angle 50x50.